Tie Breaker

[Betclever]

Hi @Bob

Sorry to bother you for this kind of question but I did not correctly understand the way to avoid members with the same points...

I read somewhere something about Tie breaker but can you please explain me how to use this?

I would like to reward members by month but I think it is not possible, correct me if I'm wrong...?

Btw, a short explanation for using tie breakers is needed. :d

Thx

 

[Bob]

Admin CP...

Each POOL has the option to set 2 tie breakers that members can fill out when they submit their picks for the week. These are OPTIONAL, so you can leave them empty, use 1 of them or both of them. Its up to you to use them how you want to for each sport.

These tie breaker fields are available on both the Pool CREATE form and Pool EDIT form, so they can be added, edited and removed as any time.

Here you can see the 2 tie break fields on the Create Pool form.



Here is a screen shot of the Edit Pool form (they are exactly the same inputs. Every sport has its OWN kinds of tie breakers.
In this example (which is NFL), the most popular tie breakers in the history of pickem are guessing the total scores for Monday Night Football and Sunday Night Football.



If you decide to enable tie breakers, you will need to PAY ATTENTION to your WEEKS Management as you will need to set Lock Dates for each Tie Breaker... example, if your tie breaker is the score of the MNF game, you obviously need to lock that tie breaker before the game starts.

Here you can see that I am setting the lock date to the start of the MNF and SNF games.

FRONTEND...

If the pool that you are viewing has tie breakers set and in use, the tie breaker inputs and displays will available on the Picks Edit form, Manage Picks page and Players Picks overlay.

Here we are viewing the Picks Edit form. You will see below the games that the 2 tie breakers we added for the pool are displayed on the form. As mentioned, these tie breakers LOCK just like games lock. I purposely set the first tie breaker to the past so you can see what a locked tie breaker input looks like.



Here is the Manage Your Picks page and you will see that below the games are the tie breakers.



The Tie Breakers also display on the overlay when viewing a specific players picks.




This is just one example of how to use the tie breakers. Like I mentioned, each sport has its ways of handling tie breakers for Pickem.


HOW TO USE THEM...

Pickem lets you set 1st, 2nd and 3rd place for EACH WEEK. This is a MANUAL process. There are times when you have TIES and that is where the tie breakers come into play. If you have 2 people tied for first place, you need to use the tie breakers to determine who gets 1st and who gets 2nd. If you still have a TIE after those 2 tie breakers, then you need to have a POLICY in place to handle that. most people that play pickem have played if for decades. I've been playing since the early 1980's. Its ALWAYS been a ROLL of the DICE as a last resort. That is something simple you can do, but you need to tell your players that before they start playing.

Once you determine 1st, 2nd and 3rd place, you go to Pool Management, click on the "Weeks:#" link for the specific pool that you are managing





This will take you to the Weekly Winners Management Area. Click on the specific week that you want to set.



This will take you to the input form where you set 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winners (add their User Ids).



When you set the weekly winners, they will display in the Sidebar Block.

NOTE: In this screen shot, the pool is FINAL and its also displaying the Overall Winners which just happen to be the same as the week 3 winners in this case.

 

[Betclever]

Wow, what an answer!

Thanks a lot for this Bob.

 

[TerryP]

After clicking save from this page where are my options to enter questions. I'm certainly blind this morning? It's leading me back to weeks, which I can get to the games, but there's no area to enter questions, et. al.



...and I'm right back to the game with the lock options screen.

 

[Bob]

Tie Breakers are part of POOL Management...

Note: Tie Breakers only apply to Pickem Pools, not Survivor Pools, so if you are editing a Survivor Pool, the tie breaker inputs won't display.

Edit a particular pool and scroll down till you see the Tie breaker options (then expand it).

 

[hIBEES]

Ace reply, quick question, are the tie breakers on a weekly basic then or do they all add up over the season

For example:

I have 1 game per week

with 2 Tie Breakers

Total Home Team Goals
Total Away Team Goals

Do the Scores add up over the season so It would be like Goal Difference or is it just per game?

 

[Bob]

A Tie Breaker is something you add to a POOL that is basically a question that is asked each WEEK when players make their picks that will help with determining which players take 1st, 2nd or 3rd place for that week.

Example, for an NFL Pool, a popular tie breaker is guessing the total score of the Prime Time Sunday Night Game, so EACH WEEK when players make their picks for that week, they will also fill in their guess for the Sunday Night game that week. Tie breakers are then used to "break ties" for determining who too 1st, 2nd and 3rd places for that particular week.

We actually have a tie breaker that is guessing what color of Tie that Chris Collingsworth is wearing for the SNF Broadcast.

Its a LOOSE system that is designed to be able to handle most common tie breaker systems that Pickem Leagues all around the world might be using.

Its not something that Pickem Calculates (its all manual since its TEXT questions).

Its not used for determining the Overall places for the season. That is something that each league (before it starts) should be agreeing to. Example, one of our overall tie breakers is the number of correct picks (as we use the Points system instead of correct picks count). Another one is the most times that the player "Placed" (a combo of 1st, 2nd and 3rd place weighted). Another (and we track this manually) is the most correct Prime Time games over the course of the season (kinda a game within the game as well as for overall tie breaker use).

Hope that makes sense.